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		<title>NNTP readers on OS X are built from failure</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Posted in applicationsmacopinion and libelIn the office where I work we use/maintain a newsgroup server with a variety of internal newsgroups where everything from items for sale to complaints and hassles are posted. Late last year I went pretty much all-Mac, all the time, with a Remote Desktop window connected to a Windows machine in the office which I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the office where I work we use/maintain a newsgroup server with a variety of internal newsgroups where everything from items for sale to complaints and hassles are posted. Late last year I went pretty much all-Mac, all the time, with a Remote Desktop window connected to a Windows machine in the office which I used for Outlook (because we're an Exchange shop) and Thunderbird (to read the newsgroups). Wondering if I could cut ties a little further, I looked into NNTP readers for OS X.</p>

<p>A small bit of background first: I'm using Snow Leopard and I'm unwilling to deal with the vagaries of less-than-native clients. This means that I'm not using ported Unix apps. So no Gnews, newspost, Pan, Pine, Slrn, or Tin. <em>Those are right out.</em></p>

<p>This left me with a list cobbled together from MacUpdate:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.panic.com/unison/" class="aga aga_33">Unison</a>, $24.95 from <a href="https://www.panic.com/" class="aga aga_34">Panic</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.malcom-mac.com/get/mac/nemo" class="aga aga_35">Nemo</a>, $14.95 from <a href="http://www.malcom-mac.com/" class="aga aga_36">Malcom Mac</a></li>
<li><a href="http://home.snafu.de/stk/macsoup/" class="aga aga_37">MacSoup</a>, $20.00 from <a href="http://home.snafu.de/" class="aga aga_38">Stefan Haller</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.platinumball.net/pineapple/news/macosx/" class="aga aga_39">Pineapple News</a>, free from <a href="http://www.platinumball.net/" class="aga aga_40">Allen Brunson</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.edv-consulting-berlin.de/Xnntp/" class="aga aga_41">Xnntp</a>, free from <a href="http://www.edv-consulting-berlin.de/" class="aga aga_42">EDV Consulting</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.asar.com/hogwasher.html" class="aga aga_43">Hogwasher</a>, $49.00 from <a href="http://www.asar.com/" class="aga aga_44">Asar</a></li>
<li><a href="http://osxnews.sourceforge.net/new2/" class="aga aga_45">OSXNews</a>, free from <a href="http://sourceforge.net/users/anurodhp" class="aga aga_46">Anurodh Pokharel</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.smfr.org/mtnw/" class="aga aga_47">MT-NewsWatcher</a>, Donation requested, from <a href="http://www.smfr.org/" class="aga aga_48">Simon Fraser</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.maxprog.com/site/software/internet-tools/maxnews_sheet_us.php" class="aga aga_49">MaxNews</a>, $20 from <a href="http://www.maxprog.com" class="aga aga_50">MaxProg</a></li>
</ul>

<p>I had intended this to be a marginally comprehensive review of my time using these clients, but I barely got into the account setup with most of them, if I installed them at all. Here's how it broke down…</p>

<p><span id="more-734"></span>
<a href="http://www.panic.com/unison/" class="aga aga_51">Unison</a> looks like crap; It hasn't been updated in since 2-26-08, and it has quirks under Leopard and Snow Leopard that I'm just not prepared to deal with. It feels dated, by which I mean it doesn't look good by modern Aqua standards; it also uses multiple windows to manage a lot of it's information. It feels like it's really based around the filesharing on Usenet, instead of being a general-purpose NNTP reader, which led me to uninstall it within five minutes. It's probably the worst looking <a href="http://panic.com/" class="aga aga_52">Panic</a> application (but one of the better looking ones in this list), which is unusual for a company who is often considered the vanguard of independent Mac development.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.malcom-mac.com/get/mac/nemo" class="aga aga_53">Nemo</a>? So much promise. <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/nemox?hl=en" class="aga aga_54">So god damned buggy</a>. Poorly translated. Unfortunately priced given the wide-ranging nature of the bugs. These are fixable (and the price would be reasonable otherwise), but the simple fact of the matter is that this client is an example of how not to use cocoa frameworks. Didn't even make it to "use" because once it littered the root of my hard drive with empty files, I trashed it.</p>

<blockquote>
  <h3>UPDATE</h3>
  
  <p>The <a href="http://www.malcom-mac.com/" class="aga aga_55">Malcom-Mac</a> site is down for "scheduled maintenance" and the developer of Nemo has <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/nemox/browse_thread/thread/818427082fffa9f1?hl=en" class="aga aga_56">stated his desire to squash these outstanding bugs and polish his software</a>. I'll revisit this in a few months time.</p>
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<p><a href="http://home.snafu.de/stk/macsoup/" class="aga aga_57">MacSoup</a>? No idea. It asked me to create a "settings file" to create a new database for news and mail. Obviously doesn't get what "native" client means. Looks like it's using old quickdraw calls to render the UI. Never set up accounts in it.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.platinumball.net/pineapple/news/macosx/" class="aga aga_58">Pineapple News</a> is free but the custom icons look <em>extremely</em> janky compared to the "standard" icons they're replacing. After setting up accounts it just hurt to use. It's visually grating on the eyes.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.edv-consulting-berlin.de/Xnntp/" class="aga aga_59">Xnntp</a> has an installer. <em>Aint no damned reason for that</em>. It's a bloody NNTP reader. It doesn't need to create system files. OS X uses the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_Bundle" class="aga aga_60">application bundle format</a> for a reason.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.asar.com/hogwasher.html" class="aga aga_61">Hogwasher</a> looks like an old Hotwire<sup id="fnref:1"><a href="#fn:1" rel="footnote">1</a></sup> client that someone stripped the filesharing out of and glued NNTP support to. It costs a lot of money (and maybe it took a lot of time to develop) but it's just god damned unusable. Trashed within minutes.</p>

<p><a href="http://osxnews.sourceforge.net/new2/" class="aga aga_62">OSXnews</a> looks awful too. Probably works better than Nemo, but has a distinct level of spit and polish missing. Never even got to setting up my newsgroup account. The author stated in July of 2007 that he was working on version 3. I wrote this in October of 2009, just to</p>

<p>I cannot stress how terrible the experience with <a href="http://www.smfr.org/mtnw/" class="aga aga_63">MT-NewsWatcher</a> was. It is basically an old Classic Mac application that has been updated just enough to sort-of run under OS X. It took a while to do anything, and it might be the worst looking of all of these clients. Apparently, Classic Mac OS users love it because it still looks and works like a Classic Mac application. Just so we're clear, I fucking hated the Classic Mac OS.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.maxprog.com/site/software/internet-tools/maxnews_sheet_us.php" class="aga aga_64">MaxNews</a> was downloaded, but at this point I gave up and just installed the <a href="http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/early_releases/" class="aga aga_65">Thunderbird 3 beta</a>. Is it a little overkill? Yes. Is it a little bloated? Yes. But it just works, and it works well.</p>

<p>So what happened? I think that a few options are plausible: these developers date to a different era, with different development mores and means. They may think that people still using NNTP  don't care about their clients looking or working like complete shit, or they may think that because NNTP and Usenet as a whole date to an era where people would just roll their own GUIs or slap some shit together in curses and call it a Usenet client, they can still get away with that sort of behavior and worse still, get away with charing money for it.</p>

<p>So, am I being a bit of a snobby dick and trashing developers hard work?<br />
Yes, I am.</p>

<p>But when the honorable mention you give to Thunderbird 3 (which is in beta right now, and more usable than anything else I listed) is the best thing you have to say about Mac OS X NNTP clients, the whole damned situation is in a sad sorry state of affairs. And if you're going to ask me to pay money for something, you'd better give me something worth paying money for. So this attempt to review these clients has ended in abortive failure, and concession to get by with the least worst option available.</p>

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<hr />
<ol>

<li id="fn:1">
<p>Hotwire was a file-sharing service where a tracker would host files, and users would usually have to meet some insanely arbitrary condition to get access to download them. It enforced limits and ratios, and some trackers were commercial. Pretty sure it's extremely dead now. <a href="#fnref:1" rev="footnote">↩</a></p>
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		<title>Text editing for fun and profit</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Posted in applicationseditorsmacIn the attempt to streamline the process of maintaining the myriad scripts and config files that I use day to day as part of both my day job and my droll hobby. I've used TextMate for everything, which I've previously discussed (particularly using it in conjunction with CSSEdit, which we'll come back to). But this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the attempt to streamline the process of maintaining the myriad scripts and config files that I use day to day as part of both my day job and <a href="http://orangefort.com/" class="aga aga_91">my droll hobby</a>. I've used <a href="http://macromates.com/" class="aga aga_92">TextMate</a> for everything, which I've previously discussed (particularly <a href="http://ryanmckern.com/technical/applications/cssedit-textmate/" >using it in conjunction with CSSEdit</a>, which we'll come back to). But this has sort of spiraled out of control as I've spent more time working with PHP scripts (such as WordPress themes) and I've started to wonder about the newer generation of all-in-one editors.</p>

<p><span id="more-564"></span></p>

<p>First things first, I should probably talk about TextMate. <span class="pullquote float-left"><a href="http://wiki.macromates.com/FAQ/TextMate2" class="aga aga_93">Textmate 2</a> <em>feels</em> like vaporware</span>.</p>

<p>Is it? <a href="http://blog.macromates.com/2009/working-on-it/" class="aga aga_94">Probably not</a>. And in the interest of full disclosure, I wrote this post in TextMate using the not-utterly-terrible <a href="http://blog.macromates.com/2006/blogging-from-textmate/" class="aga aga_95">Blogging bundle</a>.</p>

<p>However, it's been a few years since there was anything especially novel about TextMate, and this doesn't help the fact that the editor is getting a little long in the tooth visually. This isn't really a problem, as a good editor can outlast almost anything else in the environment surrounding it. Many, many cranky people still use vi and emacs, which have both outlasted the <em>operating systems</em> they were built for.</p>

<p>I've just grown weary of having to finagle and finesse TextMate into usable shape. Admittedly, the <a href="http://jason-evers.com/code/code-like-i-do" class="aga aga_96">Green Moleskin</a> mod helps substantially (good bye project drawers!), and the use of updatable bundles has kept this editor viable in these rough and tumble times. I just can't help hating the fact that I have to keep <a href="http://cyberduck.ch/" class="aga aga_97">CyberDuck</a> open if I'm editing something remotely. Lack of SFTP/SSH support really is all I'm wistful about. Finicky bundle extensions (the Blogging bundle specifically is what I'm thinking of) are annoying but they are decidedly not deal breakers.</p>

<h3>The Challengers</h3>

<p>Since I <em>am</em> a geek, and therefore always looking for a better tool, I began testing <a href="http://panic.com/coda/" class="aga aga_98">Coda</a> (<strong>$99</strong>) and <a href="http://www.macrabbit.com/espresso/" class="aga aga_99">Espresso</a> (<strong>$79.95</strong> or <strong>$64.95</strong> if purchased with a CSSEdit License; It's unclear if special pricing is still available if you already own CSSEdit). Both offer a generous, fully functional, trial period. Both offer promises of kitchen-sink editing (defined as being able to handle all of my editing needs without leaving the app, including CSS editing, script editing, and remote filesystem editing over SFTP/SSH).</p>

<p><a href="http://panic.com/" class="aga aga_100">Panic</a> is one of <em>the</em> top old-school Macintosh software companies. Their webpage is slick and their applications are polished like some sort of granite space mirror. Coda is their relatively seasoned (released in April of 2007) web development application. <a href="http://macrabbit.com/" class="aga aga_101">MacRabbit</a> (also an extremely slick, in the lick-able sense, Macintosh software development company) then released Espresso during March of 2009 into the same kitchen-sink web development market that Coda was fighting for. If:</p>

<ul>
<li>you work with HTML and CSS</li>
<li>you work in a language like PHP or perl </li>
<li>you hate Dreamweaver</li>
</ul>

<p>then Panic and MacRabbit want your dollars.</p>

<h3>Espresso</h3>

<div id="attachment_604" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 210px"><a href="http://ryanmckern.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Espressor-Ruby.jpg" ><img src="http://ryanmckern.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Espressor-Ruby-200x200.jpg" alt="Espresso, editing a ruby script" title="Espresso - Ruby" width="200" height="200" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-604" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Espresso, editing a ruby script</p></div>

<p>I started with Espresso, as I am a regular <a href="http://www.macrabbit.com/cssedit" class="aga aga_102">CSSEdit</a> user. As mentioned earlier I have had nothing but good things to say about CSSEdit, especially since they rolled in the <a href="http://www.macrabbit.com/cssedit/features/preview/" class="aga aga_103">live preview/x-ray and local override features</a>. Espresso is extensible through the <a href="http://macrabbit.com/espresso/extend/" class="aga aga_104">use of small plugins called Sugars</a>. Unfortunately, this means that as of today it also has poor language support (the <a href="http://fileability.net/coffee/" class="aga aga_105">Coffee House aggregator</a> shows that Sugars are relatively immature and that there is no best-practice or general standards for them <strong><em>yet.</em></strong>). Of note is that there is no real support for Ruby yet, which is annoying as all hell since most of my back-end scripts are in Ruby. You'll see in the included screenshot that Ruby documents are just plain text documents, with no syntax highlighting. However, HTMl, PHP, and Python support and highlighting were all excellent.</p>

<p>Interestingly, Espresso has none of the CSSEdit guts worked into it from what I could find. It's very much a web programmers editor, not a web designer editor. While it wasn't uncomfortable to work with CSS in Espresso, I found myself switching over to CSSEdit more often than not. I imagine that in time MacRabbit will probably roll CSSEdit and Espresso into a single application. For now though, it's more context switching, with no gain in productivity to show for it.</p>

<p>Espresso shows promise (it is a beautifully designed application), and the concept of workspaces is novel. I appreciated the ability to work on something locally while automatically publishing it remotely, and Sugars have the potential to be as awesome as Bundles, if not more so. But much as every child has the potential to be president someday,  only time will determine if Espresso's Sugars are making me coffee for $6.00 an hour in a few years.</p>

<h3>Coda</h3>

<p>Panic's challenger for my hard-earned editor dollars is Coda. Coda does a few interesting things, like integrating the <a href="http://www.codingmonkeys.de/subethaengine/" class="aga aga_106">SubEthaEdit engine</a> for <a href="http://www.panic.com/coda/#editor-pane" class="aga aga_107">collaborative editing</a> and incorporating the <a href="http://www.panic.com/coda/#files-pane" class="aga aga_108">Transmit core</a> for remote file operations. As of late it also <a href="http://www.panic.com/coda/developer/community/plugins.php" class="aga aga_109">supports plugins</a>, though I've been unable to really find much in the way of usable plugins, since they're a relatively new feature.</p>

<p>The kitchen-sink approach that Panic took with Coda also extends to having a <a href="http://www.panic.com/coda/#more-pane" class="aga aga_110">built-in terminal</a>, which can connect to a local machine or a remote machine, for code debugging, remote operations, or whatever you'd normally keep a terminal open for while developing. Coda is a very, very complex application, and that's ultimately the problem I had with using it.</p>

<div id="attachment_613" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 210px"><a href="http://ryanmckern.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Coda-Ruby.jpg" ><img src="http://ryanmckern.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Coda-Ruby-200x200.jpg" alt="Coda&#039;s weird autocomplete suggestions" title="Coda - Ruby" width="200" height="200" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-613" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Coda's weird autocomplete suggestions</p></div>

<p>Coda wants to be everything at once, and it's very good at most things that it does. The text editor never feels like it's holding me back, but one of the big quirks I found was that the constant language-unaware auto-complete suggestions are much, much more aggravating than helpful.</p>

<p>I also found little utility in the included HTML reference, but that's only because I know HTML and CSS very well (not that my blog layout implies this, but I do. Honest.), and for a developer who only uses HTML to present manipulated data, I can see it being a helpful reference. Panic has recently (as of version 1.5) added the ability to point Coda towards other websites as reference guides, and that's much more useful long-term.</p>

<h3>Conclusion</h3>

<p>At the end of the day the only real utility Coda and Espresso offer me is remote editing. They don't support any configuration file formats and their support for anything except "web languages" (ASP, PHP, perl, Python, ActionScript, HTML, CSS and kinda-sorta Ruby) is poor at best. TextMate has bundles for Apache, nginx, and SSH, as well as general support for any of a variety of key-value pair style config files. it also supports Bash and these are ultimately the make-or-break features for <em>me</em>.</p>

<p><strong>However</strong>, I recognize that Espresso and Coda aren't trying to be the programmers swiss army knife that applications like Vim or TextMate already are. They're editors geared towards web developers. Unfortunately, while that is a sizable 20% of my needs, the other 80% of my work is dealing with configuration files every single day I am on the clock.</p>

<p>For the time being, it looks like I'm sticking with TextMate.</p>

<h3>Follow-up questions</h3>

<p>You might ask now "Why not <a href="http://code.google.com/p/macvim/" class="aga aga_111">MacVim</a> or <a href="http://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/" class="aga aga_112">BBEdit</a>? What's wrong with <a href="http://www.barebones.com/products/textWrangler/" class="aga aga_113">TextWrangler</a>?"
Well, BBEdit is an excellent editor that just took too long to have its visual appearance overhauled. It used to look exactly like a Classic Mac OS application running inside a Cocoa OS X frame. They've just released a new version that I'm told would be worth my time to test and no longer looks like a very powerful editor hidden inside a child's toy. I may revisit it soon and see if it's shaping up into something that doesn't make me want to punch my monitor in frustration. TextWrangler feels almost like borderline abandonware at this point and it's an extremely watered down programmers editor for the languages I'm working in and for the amount of work I have to do. MacVim is an excellent port of <a href="http://www.vim.org/" class="aga aga_114">Vim</a> to Mac OS X, but at the end of the day it <em>is</em> Vim, and <span class="pullquote float-right">Vim gives you AIDS</span>. Worse still, if you use <a href="http://aquamacs.org/" class="aga aga_115">Aquamacs</a> then your genitals will spontaneously combust.</p>
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